As fans of Psquare continue to express their utter unhappiness about the open reality of PSquare split, Peter Okoye in an exclusive interview with NetNG on Thursday, 17th March disclosed that himself and his twin, Paul currently have separate managements.
Earlier on we reported the news on why Jude Okoye Quits As Psquare’s Manager.
Peter Okoye, now addressed as Mr P as a stage name revealed the whole brouhaha about PSquare saga. However, through the instagram, he implored Paul not to say anything about their misunderstanding to the media.
Meanwhile, Psquare seems to have settled their disagreement but it is not too convincing not to make one think that Psquare won’t appear on stage together as PSquare. Although to Peter Okoye PSquare still exists even under two different management.
Anyway, the interview is very long but it is worth reading. Read below:
The issue was the fact that I was in Psquare and it
felt like I was in fear. If I don’t do this, Psquare will
break-up, if I don’t do that, Psquare will
scatter.’Four years ago, I told Jude that he needs to
step down as our manager, because I didn’t want to
disrespect him as a brother, but this is business, we
have to structure it. And Jude said to me that there’s
a way I’ll talk to him, and he’ll slap me. So I kept
‘So, a few hours after, Paul came to me and said if I
want Jude to step down it’s not a problem, but it’ll
mean that he (Paul) will go solo. The the first time
word got out about Psquare breaking up, a lot of
people called us, senators, governors, and people
like that. In fact three of us were once in a private jet
to go and see someone who wanted to resolve our
issues and we didn’t speak to each other all through
the flight. At the end of the day, I swallowed my
pride for peace to reign and allowed Jude to remain
as our manager’.
I and Paul stay together in this estate and the last
time I saw him was about a week ago.
Then the interviewer asks: But you live in the same
premises. Why is this so?
Peter said: Truth is, I’ve not been in talking terms
with Paul since December 2015 and that was why I
travelled in January because I had a lot on my mind.
Something happened at Mavin Studios last year that
broke my heart.
In regards to collabos with other artistes he said:
Now listen to this, Psquare featured on songs with J-
Martins, Bracket, LKT, 9ice and these 4 songs were
done by Paul alone, but guess what, did I appear in
the videos, YES’.
‘Now hear this, we have other collabos with Kaha,
Darey, Ruggedman. I did these songs alone. How
come they don’t have videos? Paul refused to appear
in the videos’.
‘So I told Paul that when next he does collabo alone,
he should be in the video alone, because it got a
point where artistes began to feel if they do a collabo
with Paul it gets a video but if it’s me it doesn’t get
a video.
The last collabo we did was with Flavour and I
refused to do another one. Even Flavour had to speak
all the Igbo he knows to convince me before I agreed
to do it. Only for my brother to come and tell me that
‘shey I thought you said you won’t appear in any
video that I did the collabo alone? Why did you
appear on this one?’. I was sad but I knew another
one will come’.
So Tiwa Savage called me, apparently Paul had
gone to do a song with her, not the campaign song
they are promoting now, another Psquare collabo
entirely. So she called me that she’s been trying to
reach Paul to get the CD of the song from him that
he’s already done his part, so I went to Paul’s house
to help ask for it and tell him that I want to go to
their studio to do my verse and he said he doesn’t
know where the CD is’.
‘I went to the Mavin studio to meet Tiwa, when I got
there, she asked for the CD and I told her Paul didn’t
give me any CD, so I called him again and gave the
phone to Tiwa and told her on phone that the CD is
at Omole, so I got into the studio recorded my verse
and when I finished, everybody was clapping. I was
surprised only to realize that Paul had gone to tell
them that I don’t sing or write songs’.
‘I felt really bad and betrayed, but I covered up for
him. I jokingly asked Teebillz if they gave him Red
Label and he said yes, so I was like you guys caused
it, and we laughed over it. So when my assistant
went to pick up the CD, Paul and Jude started
shouting at him to tell Peter that what is he doing at
the Mavin studio? He knows how we work. The next
day, I went to Paul and told him how I felt when I
heard what he said. Only for Jude to say that he
made Paul the lead singer of Psquare 8 years ago! A
leader leads, he doesn’t destroy.’
‘When it comes to decision-making, it has always
been a Triangle formation, and the highest vote wins.
I never used to complain because we were all okay,
but what has changed now is the fact that we’ve
grown. You can make a certain decision based on
how we used to do it and it may affect everyone as
an individual, but it gets to a point when the
decisions taken never gets to be my own and I began
to wonder if anything is wrong’.
‘I always get Ideas, most of Psquare ideas come
from me, and when I say Idea, I mean materials we
need to put out for people to see, video, stage
performances and all. But when I come up with
them, nobody wants to accept it. I didn’t complain
because people still love what we do, but then again,
there wasn’t much competition in the industry back
As time goes, we should get better, it shouldn’t be
same triangle deciding, because if we continue that
same way, we’ll lose it. All I want is a proper
structure in the sense that, we need to have proper
management, business managers and all’.
‘As I speak to you right now, we don’t have any
office, no structure. When this issue started about
five years ago, our lawyer told us the way we run our
business is wrong without a structure’.
‘I’ll give you an instance’.
We had to go perform somewhere once, and because
I had a slight argument with Paul, he said he’s not
going. The show was the wedding of the President’s
daughter, because some times when we perform for
some certain people, they always talk to me, they
don’t call Jude’.
‘I didn’t even know until we got to the airport and at
the end of the day we missed the reception, but we
finally performed at the gala night, because when I
got to the airport my brother wasn’t there, and I
became confused on how I was going to explain to
the President that we can’t perform?
So I made up my mind to go with the band, perform
like that and lie that my brother was sick. So we left
for Abuja and when we got to the hotel dressing up
my assistant manager called that he was on the way
to the airport with Paul, so we had to wait for them to
land in Abuja and that was why we couldn’t make it
on time to the reception’.
‘The president was mad. In fact Mama Peace
(Patience Jonathan) was really mad. But we
eventually made up for it with a performance at the
Gala night.
Only for Jude to say Paul said he wasn’t going for a
show and I still went on it with it’.
‘Imagine if Jude had a proper structure and we had
contracts? That wouldn’t happen. And it was more
because the show came through me. If the show
came through Jude it wouldn’t have happened. I
don’t have a problem with doing things as a family,
but then the structure and proper organization is
important too. The name Psquare is very big outside
but inside we have no structure, I see people like
Audu of Chocolate City, Mavin Records, even Ubi
Franklin and I wanted us to have a structure like
that. Psquare is just up there because of the grace of
So I made up my mind to go with the band, perform
like that and lie that my brother was sick. So we left
for Abuja and when we got to the hotel dressing up
my assistant manager called that he was on the way
to the airport with Paul, so we had to wait for them to
land in Abuja and that was why we couldn’t make it
on time to the reception’.
‘The president was mad. In fact Mama Peace
(Patience Jonathan) was really mad. But we
eventually made up for it with a performance at the
Gala night.
Only for Jude to say Paul said he wasn’t going for a
show and I still went on it with’.
‘Imagine if Jude had a proper structure and we had
contracts? That wouldn’t happen. And it was more
because the show came through me. If the show
came through Jude it wouldn’t have happened. I
don’t have a problem with doing things as a family,
but then the structure and proper organization is
important too. The name Psquare is very big outside
but inside we have no structure, I see people like
Audu of Chocolate City, Mavin Records, even Ubi
Franklin and I wanted us to have a structure like
that. Psquare is just up there because of the grace of
In response to being labeled a dancer he says:
‘It’s really sad that people have labeled me ‘Dancer’,
and people don’t really know what I do for Psquare.
Kudos to Paul, I’m not a good songwriter, in-fact I’ll
rate myself 30%, so when it comes to song writing, I
give it to Paul 100%.
‘However, not writing songs does not disqualify you
from being a musician. I can tell you for free that a
Nigerian wrote two of the songs on Rihanna’s new
album. I’ve travelled a lot and most times people
ask, ‘which one are you, the singer or the dancer’?
And it’s really sad’. In Psquare, I am the creative
person, I can sit-down and tell you what people
want to hear, what they want to see and what they
want to learn from Psquare. But it’s not something
to brag about’.
Jude directs all our videos:
‘This whole thing began when Paul went online and
started posting lyrics of most of our songs on
Instagram that he wrote them all, just because Peter
brought in something to the table’.
‘I’ve been trying to bring more business for Psquare
I didn’t know it was going to cause problems. I sent
my manager to a meeting in Senegal to meet with
Universal music about getting us deals, and when he
came back, the way they responded to him wasn’t
So I had to send Diouf, the footballer to help get the
documents and convince my brothers before we
could pull through with the deal. And after some
months, we started making money. Meanwhile, while
filling the forms, Jude filled everything as Psquare.
So the first money came, we shared it. The second
money was bigger, it came and we shared it too.
That was when Paul said we had to re-fill the form
and give proper credit to the songwriter (Himself)
and if the form is not brought back, he’s going to
expose me and tell the world that he writes all the
‘And the next day he went online to post those lyrics.
So my question is, when he was doing that what did
Jude do about it? Absolutely nothing!’
I remember I once told Paul something, when Jude
was using the term ‘Our Money’ when he just
became our manager, that was when we made our
first 1 million. I called Paul and told him that our
former manager used to make about 15%, now that
Jude is our manager, let’s think of a percentage that
we’ll be giving him and put it on paper’.
‘Paul was like, it’s not necessary. Probably, he went
to tell Jude about it.
I’m sorry to say this, but I think Paul is weak’.You
know they say change is constant, you can’t stay at
one spot, as the industry moves, you move. So I
won’t say the problem we have is money. I think
everybody is just dragging power unnecessarily.
Imagine Jude telling me that he’s in charge of
Psquare and there’s nothing Peter and Paul can do
about it, and I look at Paul he’s quiet about it’.
‘I’ve never seen where a manager talks to his
artistes anyhow. If there’s any issue you should call
us aside quietly to talk about it’.
WHY I called Jude out on social media
First of all, if I as an artiste tells you to step down,
and you say Paul and I cannot do anything, then
there’s no other way I can take you out than going
‘On December 14, 2015 we sat down to have a
meeting hoping to be able to set a proper structure in
place, but Paul noticed that it wasn’t working the
way he wanted, so he said he wants to tell us that
he’s starting a new group.
I thought he meant he wanted to start a record label,
and he was like no, he’s starting a new group that he
belongs to. And Jude simply said, ‘anybody stop
you’? He picked up his phones and walked out of the
meeting. I felt it had already been discussed behind
‘I later found out that Paul is already recruiting the
group and Jude is their manager. At the moment I
heard they are called ‘The MVPs’ I don’t know what
it means yet’.
‘So how do you expect me to be managed by the
same person we’ve been having issues with, who is
now the manager of the other group. There’ll surely
be conflict of interest’.
‘And it actually happened two weeks ago’.
‘Jude called me, after I had said he’s fired. He called
me on a Thursday to say ‘Hope you know we are
going to the embassy tomorrow for that show in
Holland’. I know about the show, it was already
booked before the issues started, so I told him, ‘Bro
you are not my manager, talk to my manager’. He
said, ‘Noted’. And the next day, they went to the
embassy with the new group members, which means
they had already set up their interview at the
embassy because it’s not possible to get an
appointment in less than 24 hours’.
‘So I traced the organisers, and told them that Jude
does not represent us, he represents only Paul. I told
them this is what it takes to get Peter and Paul,
Peter alone or Paul alone’.
‘So I went on social media to protect our careers,
because if I didn’t do it, Psquare will not release any
materials anytime soon, they’ll be busy promoting
their artistes’.
And I remember going to talk to Paul about it before I
went on social media, I went to his house he was in
his room with his friend, and I was like can he
excuse us, I want to talk to you and Paul said, no,
his friend should stay, anything I want to say should
be said in front of him. So I said, no, you know we
are brothers and he was like, ‘oh, na now you know
say we be brothers’.
So I said, I came to talk to him about what’s been
happening, but it was turning into an argument so I
left and I travelled out. I was away for over a month,
knowing that we didn’t have any show at that time. I
went to Turkey, London to rest my mind, my friend
Samuel Eto’o invited me to come’.
‘The day I fired Jude was at a concert. It was the day
I came back, we had a show, so I went straight to the
venue in Lagos and told Jude I want to talk to him,
and he said I should say anything I want to say in
front of everyone. I was like that was the same
attitude Paul gave me before I travelled’.
‘So Jude was like if I like I should get out, and I was
like guy don’t embarrass me. He said who are you,
because you think you are Psquare? So I told him
openly that if he cannot resolve me and Paul’s issue,
he doesn’t deserve to be our manager, and he said I
should get out. There and then I told him ‘You are
fired’! He looked at me and said, ‘You fit fire me’?’.
‘That was when I entered my car and started
Tweeting. How else can you take him out?’
‘Long before I made up my mind, Paul already said
there’s no more Psquare, If Jude leaves he goes with
him’.And before I announced my management, I
wanted my mind to be clear, so I went back to Paul,
this time we were alone and we spoke a lot, I told
him I had no issues with him, but he needs to stop
letting Jude use him as a shield. Both of us started
shedding tears, and when we finished he still said he
hopes I’m not here to tell him that I still want
Psquare and I told him I want to move on, because
he already has a manager (Jude) and I don’t, so I
had to structure myself too’.
‘And I didn’t want to allow the Psquare name to fade
before moving on. Look at Don Jazzy and Dbanj,
when they broke up, they waited for like 6 months
and had to start again. Now, that Psquare just broke
up, let me use the name to move on quickly, because
there’s no time’.
‘Before I did the Olympic deal, I’ve brought some
deals for Psquare but the people endorsing Psquare
only see Peter and Paul, but behind it’s Peter, Paul
and Jude so the price goes so high that it never
works’.But when a deal comes to my table, it’s not
like they called Jude and I went behind to talk to
them, the deal came directly to me from Jude’s
friend. He called me and told me about it, and before
then I had already established my own beverage
factory and the deal coming was from PZ, which
means I could do more business with them, so
should I lose that deal because they didn’t call
‘And I asked them that why me and not Psquare, they
said they couldn’t afford Psquare and more so the
brand was tailored to fit one person. So I went back
to tell Paul and Jude and they didn’t say anything,
they didn’t ask me not to do it.
Don’t get it wrong, we’ve been doing different private
businesses, the only difference was that the Olympic
deal had to come out public. I’ve been doing mass
housing projects on my own, Paul has been doing
real estate, Jude has been doing his own thing, he
even went to do Northside record label, so it’s not
like it’s the first thing I’m doing alone. It’s just the
first one that went public’.
‘So even when I decide to open my beverage factory,
people will still say why am I doing it alone without
my brother’.
‘I hear lot of people think it’s all a stunt, and that’s
what I really want to put an end to. It’s not a stunt
at all. It has been going on for a while’.
‘When Jude didn’t come to my wedding, people
started saying we broke up and then others said it’s
a stunt, then when Paul posted those lyrics stuff on
Instagram people thought it was a stunt too, but the
truth is that, this is not and has never been a
publicity stunt’.
‘I am telling you the truth, I am moving on because
people are already getting tired of this Psquare
brouhaha, now I have my manager Olatunde
Michaels and I expect everybody to respect that. I
am a family man, a musician, singer and dancer, if I
don’t move on, Psquare will collapse and there’ll be
nothing left’.
‘Already Paul has done two songs without me but no
one is saying anything, he did a song with his artiste
Muno’ with his name as Rudeboy did they feature
me? He did a song with Tiwa Savage, did they
feature me?’
‘Last week Yemi Alade sent me her album track list
to help her share on Instagram, guess what I saw,
she had a song with Psquare that I didn’t even know
about. Only Paul did it’.
The next level
‘Because I announced a new management, people
feel am the one going solo, but Paul has already
gone solo, he’s moved on and didn’t need to
announce any new management because he still
works with Jude, so I had to announce mine and
believe it or not, people are booking me for gigs
‘And guess what, I’ll still perform Psquare songs,
nobody can stop me, nobody can stop Paul too, we
didn’t have a contract with Jude, so I have the right
to perform Psquare songs especially the ones I took
part in’.
‘I’ll also consider releasing solo songs and even
albums. Truth is – in the last album Paul did some
songs alone, I did some songs alone. ‘Bring It On’
was Paul alone, ‘Eje Ajo’, ‘Shekini’ was done by me
‘Remember the 4 songs ‘Free For Fans’ that we
released, those songs were removed from the last
album and I leaked them’.
‘I have some songwriters already, V-Tek writes for
me, and I’m still bringing up more’.
‘Because of what was happening, it was like two
against one, so I said let’s share our properties.
When I said that, Paul said if we want to share our
properties, Jude must get the same share with us
otherwise Psquare will split and I was like ‘SPLIT-
‘Our lawyer came and told Paul that it’s wrong to
share it equally with Jude, but he insisted, so we
divided every property we owned in Lagos, Jos,
America, Abuja. In-fact the right and left wing of the
Square Ville mansion belongs to Paul and Jude now.
So that was how we shared all our properties equally
among the three of us about two or three years ago’.
‘After sharing everything, I called Paul again and
spoke to him about a proper structure. We’ve been
with people like Akon and co and we see how it’s
done. Right now, Psquare has millions of dollars in
royalties hanging in the air’.
‘All our endorsement and shows are shared equally
between the three of us as well’.
‘After what it took to share our properties, I was
embarking on a project, so I needed more money and
I wanted to sell my house in America and buy
something smaller, because I spend close to $30,000
to maintain that condo every year’.
‘So I called my caretaker to begin the process and
she told Jude and Paul to send their data page and
passport photographs, but they refused because they
know I wanted to the sell the house. And see the
value of dollars now. The house was valued at 100M
then, but if I sell it now, I could make extra 250M’.
‘And we already signed paper works and document
of the house that it belongs to me but Jude ignored
it, so I called our lawyer, Festus Keyamo to inform
him about the development. He called them and they
both refused to pick his call, so he sent them a text
and requested that we should have a meeting, but
Jude replied him and said no need for a meeting that
the America house will be sold’.
‘Paul said we agreed and signed on how to share but
we haven’t really shared it yet, after all Jude is still
holding on to the documents’.
‘Three of us have properties close to each other in
Parkview and that’s why I want to sell my own and
move to Banana Island’.
‘I can’t really understand why they don’t want a
structure, to me I think it’s ignorance, and if I decide
to do it, it’ll seem like I’m looking for trouble’.
‘People think we changed when we started having
wives. Before my mum died, she was at St Nicholas
hospital on the island, and my sisters were living in
this house (in Lekki), and every morning before my
wife goes to work, she’ll leave home at 5am in the
morning to go and stay with my mum even before we
get there ourselves. And when she closes from work,
she’s back with her again’.
‘So I just laugh when I hear people say my mum
didn’t like my wife. It’s my wife and sister that
prepare my mum’s meals in the kitchen’.
‘Now let me shock you: our wives, the three of them
are the closest set of people you can imagine. Even
with all that’s going on. It’s really surprising.
Somehow, they respect themselves and stayed out of
the whole drama and I respect them a lot. And that’s
somehow what has kept us together for this long,
otherwise Psquare would have ended like two or
three years back’.
When I set up P-Classic records because people
were saying Psquare haven’t helped anyone, I saw
the success of Tiwa Savage and I was close to
signing Cynthia Morgan and Simi. Ask them they’ll
tell you’.
‘I remember Paul came to the studio and said he
heard I’m signing Simi and Cynthia, I said ‘Yes’, and
he was like ‘What will people see Jude as’, and I
gave him example of Drake and Young Money, Cash
‘Oscar (Producer of ‘Collabo’ ft. Don Jazzy) called to
tell me that they can’t sign the deal, because he
heard it’s causing problem in Psquare. Meanwhile
Cynthia and Simi were both going through the
contracts I gave them only for them to return it two
days later that they can’t do it’.
‘Two weeks after, I was shocked to hear that Jude
had signed Cynthia Morgan, and she knows deep
down that she’s never going to get a Psquare
‘The truth is I feel happy it has come, because I’ve
been staying in Psquare in fear for the last four
years. The situation now is, if you want Psquare to
perform, you’ll have to get in touch with two
management, I don’t care if you pay Paul’s
management more than they pay me, once we are
able to agree Psquare is still there’.
‘I just don’t want to have a management that feels
he’s in control because he’s my elder brother’.
‘And because of the legacy that I want Psquare to be
remembered for, that was why I went to talk to Paul
the last time. I don’t want us to start doing beef
songs, or we see at the clubs and we don’t greet
each other, or ignore our kids and stuff like that. And
even if Psquare breaks up, I still want us to have our
relationship as brothers. If I’ve regretted anything in
my life so far, I swear to God this is not one of them,
I’m happy because I’ve been in pain for a long time’.
‘It’s good if we go and do stuff separately so that
even IF we come back we’ll have respect for each
other. I wish Paul the best and I wish Jude the best
as well’.